The Qur’an in its own words – Surah 4:1-100 “The Women”

I’m reading the Qur’an for the first time and I’m stunned by how completely different Allah’s ways are in comparison with the God of the Bible.  Below are verses you need to see with your own eyes.  Other than restating in clear terms what is written, I’m not providing much commentary.  There’s really no way to contextualize these verses since the Qur’an is a jumble of disconnected sayings. 

Sura 4 is long; here are noteworthy examples excerpted from the first 100 (of 176) verses:

Men can marry multiple women, since they are “possessions”, as the text makes clear:

Marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess…  4:3

Daughters inherit less of a parent’s estate than their brothers:

Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females. But if there are [only] daughters, two or more, for them is two thirds of one’s estate. And if there is only one, for her is half…  4:11

Instructions for men who want to dump one wife for another:

But if you want to replace one wife with another and you have given one of them a great amount [in gifts], do not take [back] from it anything. Would you take it in injustice and manifest sin?  4:20

Men are not allowed to have intercourse with women married to others, unless of course the women are slaves:

And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hands possess…  4:24

Its “easy” for Allah to cast sinners into the fire:

…And whoever does this aggressively and unjustly, We will soon cast him into fire; and this is easy to Allah.  4:30

Allah just “lets the small sins go” if you avoid the major ones:

If you avoid the major sins which you are forbidden, We will remove from you your lesser sins and admit you to a noble entrance [into Paradise].  4:31

Men are in charge of women, because men are better than women:

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women).  4:34

If a man is even afraid of a woman rebelling from him, he is to admonish, withhold sex from, and beat her:

As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and beat them.  4:34

Once you’ve burned in Hell, Allah will give you new skin to experience the torment with “fresh skins”:

Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.  4:56

Believers are admonished to fight for Allah:

Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.  4:76

So fight in the way of Allah.  4:84

Those afraid to fight for Allah are derided and told that this world can only be enjoyed a little compared to the hereafter, making it plain that this verse refers to literal combat:

When fighting was ordained for them, at once a party of them feared men as they fear Allah or with [even] greater fear. They said, “Our Lord, why have You decreed upon us fighting? If only You had postponed [it for] us for a short time.” Say, The enjoyment of this world is little, and the Hereafter is better for he who fears Allah .  4:77

The Qur’an claims to be error-free:

Do they not then meditate on the Quran? And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have found in it many a discrepancy.  4:82

Allah intentionally leads people into error:

Would you (like) to guide him whom Allah has led into error? And whomever Allah leads into error, then you will never find for him a way. 4:88

Converts from Islam are to be killed:

Do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them…  4:89

The “mujahideen” who fight in Allah’s cause are preferred by him over those who stay home:

Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] – other than the disabled – and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen… 4:95

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11 Responses to The Qur’an in its own words – Surah 4:1-100 “The Women”

  1. Willard says:

    A religion completely devoid of love, compassion, feeling. I think this is the way Satan designed it to posses people – it gives man the reason and the excuses to excert power over women and the infidels – Did you see my comment on the 1260 and 1335 days on Joels ?? Are you close to where the slides are happening in CA

  2. Kurt J. says:

    Willard,

    Yes I read it… I’m not exactly sure from where you’re counting to get to the 1335th day. I do understand you’re saying it falls during Hanukkah 2015, if we start counting in April 2012, right?

    Hanukkah is interesting. Its not one of the 7 feasts of Lev 23, but it IS mentioned in the Bible in John 10:22. If it were added to the 7 Feasts, it would fall in the right location to be in order–the 8th Feast, following the 7th, Sukkot. It also occurs during the traditional celebration of Christ’s birth (Dec 25th–yes I know that is a pagan holiday that precedes Christianity). And it has to do with the temple and a supernatural supply of oil, the presence of God.

    Kurt

  3. Willard says:

    From R/H 2008 beginning of the world finacial collapse to Feast of unleavened Bread in 2012 – 1290 (Dan 12) days eve of the 7th day of Passover April 11th
    From the Eve of the 8th day end of the Feast of unleavened Bread to Yom Kippur (Last Trumpet) 2015 is 1260 days (42 months) and a further 75 days puts us in Hanukkah = 1335 days from the Feast of unleavened Bread in 2012

    Jesus fullfilled the Feast of unleavened Bread and thus is where he terminated his first coming so to speak so does it not make sense that this is where he would pick it back up on the second return ??

    There just seems to be a lot of action surrounding R/H 2015 – just watching

    Wn

    • Kurt J. says:

      OK, much clearer, thanks.

      Daniel 12:11 says: From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

      How do you think this applies to RH 2008? Was the Abomination of Desolation set up then? For pre-tribbers and those post-tribbers that believe in a 7-year trib, this notion of fitting in two different periods of 1260 days, a period of 1290 days and even one of 1335 makes some sense… they all generally believe that a physical 3rd temple will be built in Jerusalem by the A/C, then half way through the seven years he breaks the treaty… you know the drill. I don’t believe that whole paradigm. This leads me to a problem: what to do about these periods of 1260, 1290 and 1335 days?

      Well, the 1260 corresponds pretty well with a 3.5 year trib–after all, 42 months and a time, times and 1/2 time are called out elsewhere. But the 1290 and 1335 are more problematic. Also they are not clearly associated with the 1260 days, but they are definitely related to each other, and seem to be overlapping–they are in consecutive verses and the readers of Daniel are told they are blessed if they keep waiting and attain to the 1335 days”. So I take that to mean the 1290 and the 1335 start on the same day; the 1335 just lasts 45 days longer.

      Here’s a second problem: I don’t believe that a “regular sacrifice” (Dan 12:11) will be set up during the End Times tribulation–so can these verses really be talking about the end End Times? Maybe they’re talking about Antiochus Epiphanes–during that period they were without a literal sacrifice for about 3.5 years, from 168-164 BC, and that would have still been hundreds of years in the future from Daniel. You have to remember everything future was “end times” from his perspective. Its not unheard of for an author to jump back and forth between times–i.e., long into the future and closer to the present. I do continue to believe, for instance, that Dan 11:5-32 is about AE, and vs. 36-45 are about the End Times A/C.

      So for now I see Dan 12:11-12 discussing AE in 168 BC, not the A/C in 2012, or ?

  4. Willard says:

    Dan 12:11 is still a big question mark for me as well it does not seem to fit Antiochus Epiphanes – and yes I agree that he would have been future as end time for Daniel – the 1290 and the 1335 are definitely connected as you suggested – they cover the same period of time which ever that is – the 45 days is not obvious to me as to something else happening in the OT over a period of 45 day or even in years

    When Daniel says the blessed are those who reach the 1335 it must be a special day (Christ return??) and it echos and sounds like it is called blessed maybe because we have made it through a great tribulation like 12:1 suggests

    Da 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then.

    “From the time” it seems to be telling me that the daily sacrifice that is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up there is a gap of 3 1/2 years or 42 months – There is no sacrfice today so what sacrfice is he talking about that will be abolished is a stickler – it must be something right ahead of us because in 12:9 we are told that the words are closed until the end and in 12:13 we are told twice again that it will be at the end of the days

    Da 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Da 12:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

  5. Willard says:

    Thanks for the lead on that Jubilee Sabbath book – it is a large one

  6. Reginald says:

    Kurt and Willard

    Greetings

    I found you here from a link on Joel’s Trumpet.

    I think the key to understanding the prophecies in Daniel is a clear understanding of the end-time discourse of Jesus, being sure to first use all the scriptures from the Gospels, in particular, Matthew, Mark and Luke. Luke’s account is very important as it describes the Abomination of Desolation in different words and more clearly helps one to see when it happened. (Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21)

    In the Gospel end-time prophecy, Jesus is actually answering three questions. Most people see only two issues being addressed; the end of the age and the sign of His coming. However he was also asked when the destruction of Jerusalem would happen, ie when it’s desolation would occur, when every stone would be knocked down.

    When you are not looking for an end-time abomination of desolation, the jig saw puzzle is a lot easier to put together. Especially the pieces in Daniel. Chapter 11, that long discourse about the King of the North and the King of the South then easily confirms that the abomination has passed already.

    Chapter 11 begins with ‘three more kings’ in Persia and goes on and on and on until ‘the time of the end’ in verse 40, which is followed soon after by a of ‘a time of trouble’ and then the resurrection in Chapter 12:1-3. However, if you have just read the chapter, you will notice the abomination of desolation is mentioned in verse 31, well before the end, and it is followed by a short description of valiant saints (the church) instructing many, suffering persecution, being strong, refined and made white ‘until the time of the end’ v34, and ‘until the wrath has been accomplished’ (the time of the gentiles).

    Chapter 9:24-27 is also to be understood as fully fulfilled in the coming of Christ Jesus, and the the desolation of Jerusalem as prophecied by Jesus in Luke has its fore runner here in Daniel 9:27c.

    Chapter 8:11 also mentions the Prince of the host, (Jesus), by Him sacrifices finished with, and the sanctuary cast down. Verse 12 continues with the an army, (Rome) stopping the ongoing sacrifices (of the Jews) and prospering in trampling truth to the ground.(persecution).

    The 2300 days is possibly the length of the Jewish/Roman war AD66-73 as it accomplishes the righteous indignation of the Lord regarding the abominations. The word cleansed refers to something being made right as in what is done is right. (Strong’s 6663)

    Reading Josephus’ account of the scene in Jerusalem gives us insight into these words in 9:27, “And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate.” While the Romans were surrounding the city, a virtual civil war was going on inside, the priesthood had been taken over and all sorts of abominations were going on.

    Daniel 12 ends with the 1290 days and the1335 days. I suggest that because this is linked to the abomination, the time could have been the time for the faithful to leave the city. Jesus said they were to flee, and for them to understand regarding the abomination spoken of by Daniel. Josephus was outside the walls, warning those who would hear to escape, that they would be spared by the Romans if they came out and surrendered. (He was acting like Jeremiah when the Babylonians were coming to destroy)

    Daniel 12:7 is the only end-time piece of the puzzle remaining and it simply fits in with the three and a half years in Revelation when the saints are being persecuted by the beast. Note, ‘the power of the holy people is completely shattered’, refers to all the fleshly power of God’s people. When God’s people are relying solely on the power of the Holy Spirit and all their self reliance is destroyed, He will have a ‘spotless bride’. And then all these things shall be finished. AMEN

    The above is a summary, I could go to great lengths but I believe this scenario solves the problem of having to make leaps of logic, it simply allows scripture to interpret scripture. As I commented on the other site, this subject could require me to write a book. Perhaps this is the beginnings.

    Looking forward to your comments and questions.

    Peace to you in Jesus Name

    Cheers

    Reg

    PS I might as well post this on Joel’s as well.

    • Kurt J. says:

      Reginald,

      Not ignoring your comment, but I just haven’t had time to respond until now. For the most part, I agree with your take on the 3 questions asked at the beginning of Mt 24 and Jesus’ responses to all 3 questions, which frankly, its difficult to assign which statement/answer of Jesus to which question. This is something I’ve gone back and forth on quite a bit. But definitely one of the questions is “Tell us, when will these things happen?” (v3) in response to Jesus stating “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down” in v2. While I am not a Preterist, definitely He is giving guidance and advice to Jews when Jerusalem is sacked in AD 67-70.

      This becomes especially clear when you compare Mt 24 with Luke 21:20-24: “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near. Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city; because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled. Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people; and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.”

      Notice the word “desolation” is used to describe the events of AD 70; also the phrase “great distress” is equivalent to “great tribulation” in Mt 24:21, which I believe is a reference not to the end of the age ‘tribulation’ but to the one that started when the temple was destroyed, and which has continued and won’t end until “the time of the gentiles is fulfilled” (Luke 21:24, sim. to “unless those days had been shortened” in Mt 24).

      I am going to respond later when I have some more time to your Daniel analysis, but briefly, I see a break at about 11:33 or 34, made very clear by v 35 (“in order to refine, purge and make them pure until the end time”) where Daniel stops prophesying about Antiochus Epiphanes and begins prophesying about the end time Beast. In Dan 12 it seems, as you touch on, Daniel backs up time-wise to prophesy about the AoD of 70 AD. I want to spend more time on that later.

      Very good potential on your 1290, 1335 and 2300 day proposition! Please give me some links if you’ve seen others elaborate on your take.

      Your brother in Yeshua,
      Kurt

      • REGINALD says:

        Hello Kurt,

        I note in your reply that you mention Antiochus Epiphanes as being the subject of the prophecy in Daniel 11, around verses 33-35.

        Historically and Scripturally it is no longer Greek dominance in Jerusalem, but Roman.

        Historically, Antiochus never did bring about desolation to Jerusalem. All he managed to do amounted to desecration, and he was soundly defeated by the Maccabees. Desolation has only happened twice in the history of Jerusalem; first under the Babylonians, and lastly under the Romans. The Temple is of course still desolate to this day.

        Scripturally, the time of the Greeks in the Daniel 11 prophecy begins in verses 3 and 4, and is long gone before the verses speaking of the abomination of desolation. The verses 32-39 speak of the persecution of the saints and the acts of the Roman King/Caesar. Verse 33 says this will be for ‘many days’ and verse 35 comments that this is not the time of the end.
        The time of the end is identified as not occurring until verse 40.

        This then agrees with what Jesus was saying to the disciples about fleeing Jerusalem then coming desolation.

        This also agrees with the prophecy of Daniel 8 which again reveals another Kingdom coming after the Greeks who rises against the Prince of Princes, that is Jesus, and destroys the sanctuary and brings in the transgression of desolation.

        Note also, the desolation is called an abomination, it is also called a transgression. It is not a pork offering, or an erection of an idol or whatever. Although those things may have been done, they amount only to being a desecration. It is the very desolation that is an abomination. The transgression of desolation. Daniel 8:13.

        Hope that clarifies what I am seeing.

        Cheers

        Reg

  7. Kurt J. says:

    Reg,

    I’m sorry I haven’t responded ’till now–I was really hoping to write an article on this topic, and then refer you to it. I still plan on doing that, but its probably going to be another week or two, so I thought I at least better say something.

    I agree with a lot of your view, principally that the AoD occurred with Jesus’ sacrifice and the Jew’s rejection of it, made clear by the destruction of the temple and the end of the daily sacrifice in 70 AD.

    I see the breakdown of Daniel 11 a little differently, and I continue to believe Daniel 8’s little horn represents A.E., not Rome nor the future A.C.

    Kurt

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